Abi and Andrew discuss resilience as a key factor in mental well-being, particularly for younger generations who may struggle with coping skills, a problem exacerbated by the pandemic. 

They contrast resilience with learned helplessness and explore whether it can be learned, citing Finland’s “sisu” as an example of culturally ingrained resilience. The conversation critiques the education system for not fostering learning from mistakes and advocates for reframing mistakes as learning opportunities. 

They highlight Finland’s National Mistake Day as a positive example. Practical tips for building resilience include stepping outside one’s comfort zone and trying new things. Mindfulness is also discussed, with the 5-4-3-2-1 technique introduced as a tool for managing anxiety. Finally, they emphasize that resilience can be developed through self-awareness, mindfulness, stress management techniques (like breathing exercises), learning from mistakes, and self-care. They suggest challenging oneself regularly to further build resilience. The ultimate goal is to offer simple, practical advice on building resilience and plan to create a blog post based on the podcast